Why Isn't Taiwain part of the PRC?

VHS

Ad Honorem
Dec 2015
4,865
Florania
Taiwan's GDP growth is similar to the US. If you think that Taiwan's economy has failed then you must think the same about the US. Taiwan's GDP per capita is almost triple that of China.
It is still behind that of Shanghai and Shenzhen and Prince Edward Island of Canada.
 

Larrey

Ad Honorem
Sep 2011
6,113
It is still behind that of Shanghai and Shenzhen and Prince Edward Island of Canada.
Shenzhen needs Hongkong as a gateway for foreign investment. Reduce mainland China to dealing with that according to its existing laws, and it will become apparent what the significance of the HK legal system is for allowing Shenzhen to grow also using foreign capital.

China didn't manage that all by itself.

China also constricts and restricts Taiwan at every turn. Which now shows.

So China first screws Taiwan, and then when having done this with some success claims these inhibitors on Taiwan – which China worked hard to put in place – signifies that Taiwan is somehow not viable. Maybe not, but then that was specifically engineered by China.

There's a lesson to be observed by the rest of the world about China in that.
 

Edratman

Forum Staff
Feb 2009
6,792
Eastern PA
You should re-read what you wrote here. The ramblings of a ten year old schoolboy throwing skunks at his opponents seems a bit more mature than what you wrote.
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VHS

Ad Honorem
Dec 2015
4,865
Florania
Shenzhen needs Hongkong as a gateway for foreign investment. Reduce mainland China to dealing with that according to its existing laws, and it will become apparent what the significance of the HK legal system is for allowing Shenzhen to grow also using foreign capital.

China didn't manage that all by itself.

China also constricts and restricts Taiwan at every turn. Which now shows.

So China first screws Taiwan, and then when having done this with some success claims these inhibitors on Taiwan – which China worked hard to put in place – signifies that Taiwan is somehow not viable. Maybe not, but then that was specifically engineered by China.

There's a lesson to be observed by the rest of the world about China in that.

We can look at things at a historical perspective:
The following are the GDP per capita (nominal) by years.
In 1980, the GDP per capita of China was $309; that of Taiwan: $ 2367; that of Hong Kong: $5664
In 1989, China: $409, Taiwan: $7577, Hong Kong $11929.
What was happening in China in the 1980s?
Things started improving in the 1990s for China:
1990: China $349, Taiwan $8178, Hong Kong $13281.
1999: China $872, Taiwan $13768, Hong Kong $24974
This is late 20th Century. Even in the late 20th Century, China was not even a middle income country.
The real accelerated growth happened in the 21st Century:
2000: China $959, Taiwan $14877, Hong Kong $25788
2019 (latest figure): China $10153, Taiwan $25539, Hong Kong $47512.

Please note that China started at a relatively low level in the 1980s, and the 1980s meant practical stagnation.
Hong Kong and Taiwan already had a headstart in 1980.
Why did the GDP per capita of China stagnate in the 1980s?
What led to the almost miraculous growth of the 21st Century?
 

Dan Howard

Ad Honorem
Aug 2014
5,155
Australia
What led to the almost miraculous growth of the 21st Century?
Social engineering on an obscene scale and a huge escalation of debt. China's ability to reinflate a downturn with debt-stimulus is getting less and less effective each time they do it. It is a good example of "diminishing returns".




The next "official" GDP growth figure will have a 5 in front of it and even that will be a gross exaggeration.
 
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royal744

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Jul 2013
10,981
San Antonio, Tx
How can I refuse something from another country, if they want it or not, it’s not upto me. Another red herring to avoid my question lol



Not my question, or a requirement for an answer, do you support referendums in Chinese regions for independence?



Teachers and students ask question of each other, then expect an answer. Are you able to answer my question yet?



Red herring, never asked or inferred such a thing. Science has no relevance to acceptance or not of allowing Chinese people to vote in regional referendums regarding independence from Beijing.

The UK has already been through 3 centuries (from 1707), England of course stretches back yet further. Within this time, the UK experienced Marx formulating his theories, which then spread out across the world. Plus the influences of Fascism, rise and fall of the worlds largest empire, vast wars, attempted invasions, independence referendums….yep, we’ve had our fair share of long centuries already.

Perhaps when the PRC makes it past 1 century some of these experiences will be found in the PRC?
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Sorry. Got it.