- Aug 2014
And not only power but wealth. The Plantations means full removing of people from certain areas, and deposing of land ownership in other areas, in favour of English and Scottish settlers. Opposite to other areas of the world were conquerors shared power with native aristocracy, Irish aristocracy was deposed as well of political power and land ownership. In Germany, the conflict led to consensus and sharing of power and wealth, exactly the opposite to Ireland, where every step just made the problem more accute.In Germany, the religious differences tended not to match up with political and economic differences. In Ireland, Catholics were denied both power and wealth. The Protestants controlled both.
There actually was the Kulturkampf in the late 19th century, but Yes, things were much calmer in Germany. I suspect that a part of the reason for this might have been that both Protestants and Catholics are native to Germany--having lived in Germany for centuries--if not even longer than that. Meanwhile, AFAIK, a large part of Irish Protestants are not native Irish but rather descended from English, Welsh, and Scottish settlers who moved to Ireland after England had conquered it. So, Protestants in Ireland might be perceived as being invaders--and of course, Protestants were more than willing to reciprocate in regards to hostility.In Ireland (specifically Northern Ireland) there is a wide divide between the catholic communities and protestant communities with some sections of cities needing to be walled-off from each other because the two groups just do not get along, in Germany a similar divide exists between the southern Bavarian regions which are mainly catholic and the northern regions part of the former Prussia which are mainly protestant. Yet since German unification in 1870 up until present day there never was a problem with German protestants and German catholics getting along.
Why is there a difference in dynamics between Germany and Ireland, both regions in Europe with a mix of protestant and catholic populations?
Dunno about that. The 30 Years War was one of the most brutal conflicts in European history and order broke down completely in large swaths of what is today north eastern Germany, namely the states of Brandenburg ( the area around Berlin ), Niedersachsen and Sachsen-Anhalt ( west and south west of Brandenburg ). They never fully recovered and are comparatively sparsely settled even today. It was only thanks to the federal(ish) structure of the HRE that the conflict could be settled eventually by the catholic and protestant states keeping out of each others' hair as much as possible. I don't think that is an option for Ireland.I think there is a lot to learn.
This is somehwat exaggerated. Interconfessional marriages generally weren't an issue in most regions in the early 20th century and beyond. Nationalism starting to replace religion certainly played a part in this process. My grandparents on both sides were mixed couples, one married in the 1920s in Masuria ( today north eastern Poland, then and now a rural and very conservative region ) and the other just after WWII in Thuringia ( central Germany ).There were problems. For a long time catholic and protestants didn't marry each other and up into the 1970's it was complicated and hard for a protestant and catholic to marry each other.
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