Will societal norms and values change in a post-Apocalyptic Earth?

Mrbsct

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Jul 2013
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In the event of a complete civilization collapse, will societal norms change in developed society to something primitive to that of that of much early times? Or will humans still to their morals and values of equality and democracy? How fixed can concepts like freedom, justice, equality, etc or do they change instantly in the face of the lack of institutions to back them up? Shows like the Walking Dead show that peoples in an apocalpyse will try to hold on to that ideals of society as long as possible, but nobody knows if that will work in real life. Can the same values be there or will they be more akin to early agricultural societies?
 
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sparky

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Jan 2017
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Sydney
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Of course the norms will change
the mindscape of people is formed by their needs ,
...safety ....food ......shelter
forget the walking deads , that's physiologically impossible
some form of local authoritarian feudalism is the most robust and sustainable form of organization for a shattered society
 
Aug 2010
15,488
Welsh Marches
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All food will suddenly become organic and no one will have to worry any longer about global warming and the evils of capitalism; the whole world will become a huge hippy commune and everyone will live happily ever after in amiable ignorance, eccept for those who get clubbed to death by wandering hordes of marauders who think it beneath their dignity to work the land.
 
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specul8

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Oct 2016
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All food will suddenly become organic and no one will have to worry any longer about global warming and the evils of capitalism; the whole world will become a huge hippy commune and everyone will live happily ever after in amiable ignorance, eccept for those who get clubbed to death by wandering hordes of marauders who think it beneath their dignity to work the land.
Nah .... I think the hippies will be eaten first . But I do like your idea about all the food becoming organic ... somehow ... in a post apocalyptic environment .

I also find it amusing that one might question as they did in the opening post . . . when all it takes is a minor blackout


" Looting and vandalism were widespread, hitting 31 neighborhoods, including most poor neighborhoods in the city. Possibly the hardest hit were Crown Heights, where 75 stores on a five-block stretch were looted, and Bushwick, where arson was rampant with some 25 fires still burning the next morning. At one point two blocks of Broadway, which separates Bushwick from Bedford-Stuyvesant in Brooklyn, were on fire. Thirty-five blocks of Broadway were destroyed: 134 stores looted, 45 of them set ablaze. Thieves stole 50 new Pontiacs from a Bronx car dealership.[1] In Brooklyn, youths were seen backing up cars to targeted stores, tying ropes around the stores' grates, and using their cars to pull the grates away before looting the store.[1] While 550 police officers were injured in the mayhem, 4,500 looters were arrested
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New York City blackout of 1977 - Wikipedia
 

AlpinLuke

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Oct 2011
25,243
Lago Maggiore, Italy
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In the event of a complete civilization collapse, will societal norms change in developed society to something primitive to that of that of much early times? Or will humans still to their morals and values of equality and democracy? How fixed can concepts like freedom, justice, equality, etc or do they change instantly in the face of the lack of institutions to back them up? Shows like the Walking Dead show that peoples in an apocalpyse will try to hold on to that ideals of society as long as possible, but nobody knows if that will work in real life. Can the same values be there or will they be more akin to early agricultural societies?
Well, history can tell us something about this.

Regional collapses has happened for real and a lot got lost. Think to the collapse of the Roman Empire. Anyway something survived [Christianity survived to the end of the Roman Empire, just to say].

Religions tend to survive to global disasters [simply sustaining that the disasters are divine punishments for the infidel mankind!] and common people after an apocalypse look for God ... so my guess is that after "a complete civilization collapse" mankind would enter a kind of middle age with theocratic states everywhere [to obtain the favor of God to avoid other global catastrophes!].
 
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sparky

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Jan 2017
3,843
Sydney
#10
during the great collapse of the 12th century BC , linear B writing disappeared
if the medium is gone , the information is lost
a future society might not be able to access digital information ,due to a lack of spare parts ,once the last CD driver snuff its mortal coil
I suppose they might remain as decoration for a while
 

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