Without WWII (but with WWI), which European monarchies were the most likely to get overthrown?

Futurist

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Horthy's son was appointed to be a deputy regent in 1942, who then died during ww2 in an aircraft crash (he was a pilot on the eastern front). So without ww2 likely the regency would be inherited by him, establishing a quasi regent dinasty. Alternatively if the international political climate allows it, i could imagine a later return of Habsburgs to the Hungarian throne as constitutional monarchs.
With Otto von Habsburg as the new Hungarian King?
 

Tulun

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With Otto von Habsburg as the new Hungarian King?
Yes, he would be the legitimist candidate, the head of the dynasty. But it would all depend on the international reaction, how would the neighboring countries tolerate the Habsburg restoration in the 1950s (after Horthy Miklós's death).
 
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Futurist

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Yes, he would be the legitimist candidate, the head of the dynasty. But it would all depend on the international reaction, how would the neighboring countries tolerate the Habsburg restoration in the 1950s (after Horthy Miklós's death).
Well, memories of WWI would have already faded a lot by the 1950s--which would have probably helped in regards to this. Also, a potential wildcard is what happens in Germany. For instance, if there's no Nazi rise to power in Germany in the 1930s, might Germany see a Hohenzollern restoration during this time if Hindenburg & Co. are still in charge of Germany? The German right disliked the Weimar Republic and if the Nazi option didn't exist for whatever reason, who is to say that they wouldn't have tried for a Hohenzollern restoration--albeit under someone other than Wilhelm II? This is relevant because if the international community allows the Hohenzollerns to be restored in Germany, it wouldn't make much sense for them to continue refusing to allow the Hapsburgs to be restored in Austria and/or Hungary.
 

Maki

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Yes, he would be the legitimist candidate, the head of the dynasty. But it would all depend on the international reaction, how would the neighboring countries tolerate the Habsburg restoration in the 1950s (after Horthy Miklós's death).
It would probably cause war with Yugoslavia and Romania, maybe Czechoslovakia as well.
 

Futurist

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Maybe in that case war could have been avoided.
Yeah, that would have made the most sense since obviously territorial adjustments would not have been tolerated by Czechoslovakia's neighbors.

BTW, what about the monarchies of Italy, Yugoslavia, Romania, Bulgaria, and Albania (if it actually survives as an independent state in this scenario)? Are they likely to survive up to the present-day without WWII?
 

Maki

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As far as Yugoslavia is concerned, who knows really? I would assume YES, but there was still the whole Croatian question that needed to be resolved so the situation wouldn't have been stable. The Communist Party was making some preparations towards possible seizure of power, but I don't think they would have managed to do it without WW2.
 
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Futurist

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As far as Yugoslavia is concerned, who knows really? I would assume YES, but there was still the whole Croatian question that needed to be resolved so the situation wouldn't have been stable. The Communist Party was making some preparations towards possible seizure of power, but I don't think they would have managed to do it without WW2.
Thanks for your answer. :)

Also, wouldn't the Croatian problem still be solved through internal autonomy in this scenario?
 

Maki

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Also, wouldn't the Croatian problem still be solved through internal autonomy in this scenario?
There was still the question of borders: just how big would this Croatian autonomous part be? Because HSS (Croatian Peasant Party, the biggest Croat party) wanted to expand it into Bosnia and parts of what is now Vojvodina. Thing is, Serb nationalists considered those regions part of Serb ethnic area and vehemently opposed giving them to the Croats. There was also the problem of a Serb minority living inside this Croatian part. They didn't want to be a part of it and made it clear to the government by drafting a number of resolutions on the matter. And you always had Serbs that resented any concessions to the Croats and you had Croats that wanted full independence.
 
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