Worst intelligence failure/covert action in US history?

Greatest US intelligence/covert action failure?

  • Pearl Harbour

    Votes: 14 29.2%
  • Battle of the Bulge

    Votes: 1 2.1%
  • Atomic Spies

    Votes: 5 10.4%
  • Chinese intervention in Korea

    Votes: 6 12.5%
  • The Bay of Pigs

    Votes: 9 18.8%
  • Tet Offensive

    Votes: 4 8.3%
  • U2

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • USS Peublo

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Iranian revolution

    Votes: 4 8.3%
  • Eagle Claw

    Votes: 1 2.1%
  • Iran/Contra

    Votes: 1 2.1%
  • Other?

    Votes: 3 6.3%

  • Total voters
    48
Jan 2015
3,286
Front Lines of the Pig War
#71
[I don't know how to remove all of the quotes.] The Japanese Navy deserved a medal for being able to assemble such a huge armada and move it across the Pacific Ocean without it being detected.
Not "across", only about halfway...
The Pacific Ocean is largely empty in the northern latitudes, other than the shipping lanes.


Also, we seem to ignore that Japan attacked the British Navy at Singapore simultaniously.
No, the British Force Z was attacked Dec 10
It was done by land based bombers only, the Japanese Navy didn't take part
 
Oct 2018
20
Baja, Mexico
#72
Not "across", only about halfway...
The Pacific Ocean is largely empty in the northern latitudes, other than the shipping lanes.




No, the British Force Z was attacked Dec 10
It was done by land based bombers only, the Japanese Navy didn't take part
You are picking nits, M'Lord. My Naval career was in the intelligence world and we were not completely devoid of interest in the Japanese Navy. My use of the word "across" did not require that they intended to dock in San Francisco. Our intelligence gathering capabilities exceeded sightings by other merchant vessels by a very large extent. If any of the Japanese ships had broken radio silence we would have intercepted it and have been fully aware of their presence. We also had submarine pickets near major Japanese harbors watching for fleet movements. As I said, they deserved a medal.
 
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sparky

Ad Honorem
Jan 2017
4,505
Sydney
#73
the pearl harbor operation had a very complex intelligence cover
there even was an operation to Alaska as a masking move
it should be noted that in intel a single fact is not really a trigger
it take a bunch of corroborating element to obtain some certainty
maskirovka , the art of military deception rely not only on hiding things
but most of all in creating false or even better true indices which fit what your opponent want to believe
 
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