Worst UK PM ever

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Naomasa298

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Apr 2010
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The mistake was that he didn’t expected the outcome, so it was a huge political error for him. The mistake was that he, and his government, weren’t prepared for that. There was not Plan or even an idea of a Plan, or an idea to make a plan. He didn’t know what to do. Since he was a “Europhile”, the next smart thing to do was to call elections, so the next government could deal with it, with all support, but he just run away, leaving the bad business for the others to clean up his mess.
No one expected the result in Parliament. But Cameron felt that, as he was a Europhile, he was not the right person to conduct the withdrawal negotiations. The resulting failure of May's negotiations were hardly his fault. At the point at which Cameron left things weren't a mess. There was plenty of potential there for a good outcome, and a moew competent successfir would have made a far better fist of it.

And all of EU and UK are still waiting for his bad Soap Opera. Meanwhile many EU electors weren’t allowed to vote in the current elections.
Well, that's too bad. As the UK is leaving, ths is an issue for the British people, not European immigrants. While it's not intentional, allowing European nationals to vote would be like allowing MPs to vote on their own pay rises.
 

Tulius

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May 2016
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Well, that's too bad. As the UK is leaving, ths is an issue for the British people, not European immigrants. While it's not intentional, allowing European nationals to vote would be like allowing MPs to vote on their own pay rises.
As far as I know, there are laws that weren't revoked. Or they are respected or not. The UK is still supposed to be a state with laws. Whiled the UK is leaving, it still didn't leave, unfortunately for all, so that means that it is still in, so that means that the EU citizens were legally allowed to vote, and that right was denied to them.
 

AlpinLuke

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Oct 2011
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As an aside note, the EU elections in UK have been just something due to legal reasons. The results of those elections are interesting for the British political environment, but substantially useless for the Union ... British representatives are going to leave soon ...

As I said in an other occasion, since UK is still a full member of EU, British citizens had to vote for EU elections and the Kingdom has to send representatives to the EU parliament ... otherwise even the Justice Court in my hometown among the Alps could invalidate the whole EU elections ...
 

Tulun

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Nov 2010
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give us some decades to judge it from a healthy historical distance :)
May certainly had a thankless job
 

Naomasa298

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Apr 2010
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As far as I know, there are laws that weren't revoked. Or they are respected or not. The UK is still supposed to be a state with laws. Whiled the UK is leaving, it still didn't leave, unfortunately for all, so that means that it is still in, so that means that the EU citizens were legally allowed to vote, and that right was denied to them.
Too bad for them. They can always go back to their home countries to vote.
 

Naomasa298

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Apr 2010
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I think he was.
When it come to Brexit it was Cameron who got us in this mess, and then he ran away from it.
May never had a chance.
Yes, he got us in a terrible mess by giving us a vote that the majority wanted.
 
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notgivenaway

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Jun 2015
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I'd rank Cameron as worse. May failed and wasn't always competent but she inherited a poisoned chalice of a job that everyone would have failed at. Being tasked with delivering Brexit when the country couldn't decide on what type of Brexit while your party is a useless burden more interested in political games and ousting you than doing their jobs, and having to face 20+ nations far more united than your own would cause everyone to fail.

And some mistakes were only mistakes in hindsight. There was some sense in calling new elections. Facing the most difficult task since WW2 requires a strong mandate, and Corbyn and Labor not just rolling over and dying was genuinely surprising.

Cameron meanwhile failed because of a mess entirely of his own making, one he had no real cause to make. Its commonly assumed Cameron called a referendum due to a fear of ukip. But the last election Cameron won saw ukip sabotaged by the electoral system which translated ukip's considerable votes into barely any seats.
The election campaign was poorly run.

I feel she had a "difficult hand" but she still made bad choices in her tenure.

Cameron scores better for me since his coalition government did well to manage the recession. Austerity was necessary, given the budget deficit.
 
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