Would Britain's and France's policies in 1938 have still been the same had the USSR had a common border with Czechoslovakia?

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Would Britain's and France's policies in 1938 (specifically appeasement towards Adolf Hitler and throwing Czechoslovakia under the bus) have still been the same had the USSR had a common border with Czechoslovakia? This would have eliminated the Soviet need to go through either Poland or Romania to get to Czechoslovakia--which would have reduced the risk of these countries being puppetized by the USSR in the event of a general European war breaking out over Czechoslovakia.

This can be achieved by having the Soviet Union agree to make peace with Poland when Poland was in a bad military position in 1920 instead of advancing up to Warsaw in the hopes of conquering all of Poland. This would require the Soviet leadership in 1920 to see some sense and conclude that the Poles are unlikely to be willingly Bolshevized and that thus it's better to let the Poles keep a rump independent Poland while having the USSR expand up to the Curzon Line.

Anyway, any thoughts on this?
 

Maki

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The USSR almost went to war with Poland in 1938 over Czechoslovakia. And while it's true that the direct border with Czechoslovakia would eliminate the need to go through Poland, such a border would be narrow and it would make sense for the Soviets to just go into Poland as well.
 
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The USSR almost went to war with Poland in 1938 over Czechoslovakia.
That war would have only actualized if Britain and France would have also went to war over Czechoslovakia, no?

And while it's true that the direct border with Czechoslovakia would eliminate the need to go through Poland, such a border would be narrow and it would make sense for the Soviets to just go into Poland as well.
It would, but the problem is that this is likely to concern everyone considering that once the Soviets get into Poland, they might be extremely unlikely to leave Poland for decades. After all, everyone remembered just how the Soviets tried to conquer Poland back in 1920.

I'm just wondering if Britain and France would have been more willing to fight on Czechoslovakia's behalf in 1938 had there not been a Soviet need to go through either Poland or Romania in order for the Soviets to militarily assist Czechoslovakia.
 

Maki

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That war would have only actualized if Britain and France would have also went to war over Czechoslovakia, no?
No, the Soviets actually almost attacked Poland due to her role in the partition of Czechoslovakia. That had nothing to do with Britain or France.

It would, but the problem is that this is likely to concern everyone considering that once the Soviets get into Poland, they might be extremely unlikely to leave Poland for decades. After all, everyone remembered just how the Soviets tried to conquer Poland back in 1920.
It would also concern anyone if the USSR moved into Czechoslovakia. The West knew the Soviets always wanted to spread Communism.
 
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No, the Soviets actually almost attacked Poland due to her role in the partition of Czechoslovakia. That had nothing to do with Britain or France.
In 1938? Because that would mean that the Soviets would have had to fight both Poland and Nazi Germany alone. After all, if the Poles get attacked by the Soviets and aren't actually at war with the Nazis yet, then they might actually be compelled to ask the Nazis for help against the Soviet menace.

It would also concern anyone if the USSR moved into Czechoslovakia. The West knew the Soviets always wanted to spread Communism.
Yeah, though at least the Czechoslovaks were genuinely willing to accept Soviet help (even at the risk of a subsequent Communist takeover of Czechoslovakia); meanwhile, the Poles and probably Romanians as well were unwilling to endure such a risk by allowing Soviet troops to pass through their territory.
 
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In 1938? Because that would mean that the Soviets would have had to fight both Poland and Nazi Germany alone. After all, if the Poles get attacked by the Soviets and aren't actually at war with the Nazis yet, then they might actually be compelled to ask the Nazis for help against the Soviet menace.
Yes, but still the USSR mobilized 330,000 soldiers in the period of 23-28 September 1938 and further 300,000 on September 29th. Marshal Voroshilov reported that 548 planes were ready to go to Czechoslovakia if neccessary. Andrei Zhdanov, Second Secretary of the CPSU informed the Czechoslovak Communist leaders that they must resist any peaceful solution and must push for war because only through war can Communist rule be established. Zdeněk Fierlinger, Czechoslovak ambassador in Moscow, reported that Moscow was "resolved not to leave Warsaw's behaviour toward us without punishment."
 
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