Would Eastern Europe have received a lot of non-White immigration over the last 75 years if it wasn't for Communism?

Futurist

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Would Eastern Europe have received a lot of non-White immigration over the last 75 years if it wasn't for Communism?

FTR, I think that the best way to achieve this would be for the July 20th Plot to succeed and for Germany to sue for peace shortly afterwards. If this happens, the Soviets might be unable to spread Communism to Eastern Europe. Of course, this would require the new German leadership to actually be man enough to stomach the expulsions of millions of ethnic Germans--peace terms that I fear no German leadership could have actually accepted.
 
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Communism doesn't encourage racism. Just look at the US. There are plenty of entrenched racist policies and attitudes in Eastern Europe that have nothing to do with communism. Communism actually helps to mitigate the worst excesses of racism.
 

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Communism doesn't encourage racism. Just look at the US. There are plenty of entrenched racist policies and attitudes in Eastern Europe that have nothing to do with communism. Communism actually helps to mitigate the worst excesses of racism.
For all of the talk about the US being racist, it's still on track to become a majority-minority country by the midpoint of the 21st century. While the Communist ideology might have encouraged multiculturalism through its "fraternal brotherhood" ideology, ex-Communist countries nowadays tend to be more hostile towards things such as immigration and same-sex marriage in comparison to Western Europe:

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better economies would attract non-Europeans for jobs of course
level of acceptance of non-Euros would probly vary country to country.
Which countries do you think are going to be the most tolerant?
 

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@Dan Howard: Are you suggesting that it's entirely coincidental that the overwhelming majority of the most Islamophobic countries in Europe are ex-Communist countries or that the AFD's level of support in Germany tends to significantly increase once one goes from the former West Germany to the former East Germany? :



 

Rodger

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Would Eastern Europe have received a lot of non-White immigration over the last 75 years if it wasn't for Communism?

FTR, I think that the best way to achieve this would be for the July 20th Plot to succeed and for Germany to sue for peace shortly afterwards. If this happens, the Soviets might be unable to spread Communism to Eastern Europe. Of course, this would require the new German leadership to actually be man enough to stomach the expulsions of millions of ethnic Germans--peace terms that I fear no German leadership could have actually accepted.
I don't think so. There wasn't an excessive need for foreign workers in Poland in the mid 1940s.
 
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Mrbsct

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No. Western European encourages immigration due to
-A culture of "White man's burden"
-It's financial system is stable to support it
-Belief of a globalized labor force
 
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Mrbsct

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And Eastern Europe won't have these last two factors?
Well poverty is higher in Eastern Europe than Western Europe. Importing a bunch of Chinese and Indian tech workers doesn't really look good for your average joe who just got after college. Expanding tech sectors tend to be more immigrant friendly. (US, Germany, UK) The US and Western Europe also have a larger service sector, labor intensive jobs can be given to lower skilled migrants. Also, there is the "superpower factor" the US is a global superpower, and wants to the economy at all costs, to attract the best and brightest The EU is a wannabe superpower. China also wants a be superpower, but they have a stable economy first, they don't need immigrants from developing nations..when they have already have enough people living in 3rd world conditions in the countryside.