Would Germany have been capable of winning the eastern theatre of wwII had it done the following?

Nov 2010
7,665
Stockport Cheshire UK
#34
If one wants to get a clearer view of how the Nazis ran the economy during 1933-45 l cannot recommend a better book than Adam Toozes book " Wages Of Destruction"
It's a must read for students of WW2
 
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Mar 2019
512
Kansas
#36
If one wants to get a clearer view of how the Nazis ran the economy during 1933-45 l cannot recommend a better book than Adam Toozes book " Wages Of Destruction"
It's a must read for students of WW2
There is also German Voices by Frederic Tubach that gives a more personal view of the situation

Such things as the excitement people had at being able to pay in to get their Volkswagens
 
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Jul 2016
8,668
USA
#38
l do have a number for the number of Volkswagen beetles sold on the civilian market before the end of the war.
The number is Zero.
All Volkswagen's produced before the war and during it were assigned to the military as staff vehicles. The only civilian to own one was Adolf Hitler.
So these were essential war production in 1941?



Those don't look like critical military necessities...

Many businessmen were concerned that Hitler could shift armaments priorities on a whim - as he had decided to do at the start of Barbarossa in 1941 [referencing the shift away from ammo and tanks to u-boats] - and were reluctant to invest capital in developing excess production capacity in military factories when they were assured by the regime once again in 1942 that victory was imminent [meaning total victory]. At mid-war, most German tank plants were still not operating at full capacity due to severe labour shortages and Speer was astounded that the main tank plants were not running a second shift. Henschel was the first to institute two 12-hour shifts in late 1942 and by early 1943 Speer pressed the other companies into following suit." - Tank Warfare on the Eastern Front 1943-1945, R. Forczyk

Harvey (1994) highlights structural rigidities and inefficiencies. For instance, in 1940, Germany was spending 58 percent more money on defence procurement compared to Britain; yet the actual size of the production was smaller. Labour force productivity was low. To illustrate, in 1942 only the 1/10 of the labour force in tank, artillery, armour vehicles and small arms industries was working double shifts. In the aircraft industry only 33 percent worked double shifts. He points out that the civil-military relations of the 1939-1945 era were similar to those of the 1914-1918 era. Thus in the First World War the German industrialists enjoyed a “blank cheque” by the state. In the Second World War, initially they had to face a state and Nazi Party intervention (Nazi Party, Gestapo, SS) but thereafter the Armaments Minister Speer established a very good working relationship with the German industry. - A RE-ASSESSMENT OF THE GERMAN ARMAMENTS PRODUCTION DURING WORLD WAR II

In March 1944, German aircraft plants went on double shifts and a seven day workweek. - World War II: The Definitive Encyclopedia and Document Collection

Are we really going to act like Germany gave the war its all?

In 1943 and after, there are millions of German combat casualties, and millions more replaced them, pulled from the civilian society. And yet it didn't hinder production at all. Did they clone those people in 1942-45? No, they were always there, just not being used properly. In 1944, they took the steps to slash the massive German govt bureaucracy of unneeded personnel and sent the unneeded into uniform.

If the resources didn't exist in 1939-41, what new lands did the Germans get that allowed them to open half a dozen new tank factories? Where did the workers for the MAN factory in Nuremberg get its manpower in 1942 to build Panthers as well as the trucks they'd previously been building?

Is it a surprise? Germany thought Britain would sue for peace after they defeated the USSR in a short 4-6 week summer campaign. Whoops, that failed. No worries, it was General Winter that screwed that up, let's try again in summer '42, and thus Operation Blue is launched, and during it the Germans made smashing headways heading into the Caucacus, Hitler and Goebbels are telling everyone the Russians are as good as beat. But whoops, another pesky winter and Stalingrad. After Stalingrad falls, suddenly it dawns on Germany that the war isn't going to end anytime soon.

But that was the problem. They waited too long to pull out all stops, because their opponents did it on day 1.
 
Jul 2016
8,668
USA
#39
The German economy was on a war footing about 10 minutes after Hitler came to power in 1933
No, it wasn't. The Wehrmacht wasn't even created until 1935. And I'm not talking about devoting more money for military funding. I'm talking about taking an entire nation and devoting it for a single thing, victory in war. Where nothing else matters.

UK did in 1939. USSR did it in 1941. USA did it in 1942. Germany didn't do it until 1943-44.
 
Mar 2019
512
Kansas
#40
No, it wasn't. The Wehrmacht wasn't even created until 1935. And I'm not talking about devoting more money for military funding. I'm talking about taking an entire nation and devoting it for a single thing, victory in war. Where nothing else matters.

UK did in 1939. USSR did it in 1941. USA did it in 1942. Germany didn't do it until 1943-44.
So then the German military spending averaging 85% of GDP from 1934 to 1938 was spent on..........not military things..........got it.
 
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