Difference between Pakistanis and Indians ...

[Greenblood07]

From all what I used to know about India and Pakistan , I thought that Pakistanis and Indians are same people that separated into two countries....Well it turns out ...it is not the case,apparently ! I'm starting this thread to make this issue a bit more clearer by initiating a rational debate on it...

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So Indians and Pakistanis are NOT the same people... Pakistanis are different than Indians in genetics, overall genetic composition, religion, culture, rituals, linguistics, dress, diet, ethnicity, governance, pre-history, civilization, race, complexion, geography, philosophy, script, cuisine, music, entertainment, soico-politics and economies.

People:

There are cases where a Punjabi from Pakistan would obviously look like their counterpart in India partitioned Punjab , but Punjabis comprise of only 2% of India. Pakistani people from KPK Province and Balochistan Province have almost nothing to do with rest of India.

CIVILIZATION:

South Asia is made up of many regions, cultures, languages, nations and civilizations. Since rivers can sustain clusters of large populations, early man formed the first civilizations around rivers. Examples include: Huang He (Yangtze River), Mesapotamia (Euphrates/Tigris) , Egypt (River Nile) and Pakistani’s very own Indus Valley Civilization (Indus River) ... Indus River runs right through the center of Pakistan and is considered as the "life-line" of the country. The name "Indians" come from Indus River , which actually flows through Pakistan..So today's Pakistanis are actually 'Indians--The people of Indus' ... A Gujrati or Bengali living in India has nothing to do with Indus to begin with...
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Modern Pakistanis take immense pride in the fact they are descendants of the civilization that formed around the River Indus. The Indus river flows entirely through modern-day Pakistan, Kashmir and Tibet. The Indus Valley Civilization was located primarily (95%) in modern day Pakistan. The Indus binds together the 6 regions of Pakistan: Baluchistan, Sindh, Punjab, Kashmir, Khyber-P, Gilgit-Baltistan.
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On the other hand, the Gangetic civilization of India is formed around the Ganges river which flows away from the Indus and terminates in the Bengal delta. It is entirely in Peninsular India and Bengal. Ancient geographers recognised the boundary of Hind to be EAST OF THE INDUS RIVER SYSTEM. The Indus River System has nothing to do with Hind; it only defines Hind as a land on the other side of the Indus System. In Latin, Hind would be defined as a trans-Indus land. Note the divergent paths below of the two rivers:


Indus – A river in Pakistan



Gangetic Civilization in Modern “India”





Moreover , for the over-whelming part of the history , modern-day Pakistan was never a part of "India" anyways... India was never a 'united' nation as it was under British rule.. Regions now compiling Pakistan were almost always "independent" of central body of 'Indian-tribes' ....

RACE:
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While the racial features of each ethnic group are not uniform, Pashtuns are the most Caucasoid, followed by Kashmiris, Baluchis, north Punjabis, and then Sindhis, Seraikis, Urdu-speakers (Not of Afghan, Turkic, Persian, Arab origin). The Australoid-....... and Mongoloid racial elements are quite infused within the dominant Caucasoid genes among Pakistanis, however there are some that have retained their distinct racial characteristics. The Australoid-Dravidian racial element dominates among the lower caste Indians, South Indians, Eastern and Central Indians. The Caucasoid racial element dominates in Northwest Indians and higher caste Indians. The Mongoloid racial element dominates in Northeast Indians and border regions with China.

India hosts the world’s largest population of Proto-Australoids. The Austrics of India represent a race of medium height, dark complexion with long heads and rather flat noses. Miscegenation with the earlier Negroids may be the reason for the dark or black pigmentation of the skin and flat noses. The Austrics laid the foundation of Indian civilization. They cultivated rice and vegetables and made sugar from sugarcane. Now these people are found primarily in three countries: India, Papua New Guinea and Australia. Their languages have survived only in the Central and Eastern India.
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ETHNICITY:

A significant portion of Pakistani population is Afghan/Pashtun and Irani/Baluchistanis. The Pashtun are an integral part of Pakistan’s establishment. It can be said there are two Pashtun countries in the world, Afghanistan and Pakistan. This ethnic group has contributed many of Pakistan’s presidents & prime ministers (Ayub Khan, Yahya Khan, Zafarullah Khan, Liaqat Ali Khan, Feroz Khan). There are more Pashtuns in Pakistan than Afghanistan and more in Karachi than Kabul. There are 15 Million Pushtun Speakers in Afghanistan and 25 Million in Pakistan! India does not have Pushtun speakers. People of Iranian ancestry have taken up leadership positions include Benazir Bhutto and the ex prime minister Gilani who visited his ancestral homes on a trip to Iran. Arabs settled along the Indus and Omanis settled in the enclave of Gwadar,Balochistan. Still other Pakistanis are descendants of Mongols, Mughals and Turks in addition to Persians, Sakas, Parthians, Hephthalites and Greeks.


Pakistani Ethnicities; Another pull towards the Oxus and Central Asia :


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Pakistan’s ethnicity with an overlap with India due to Punjab’s partition :

GENETICS :

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The Pakistani population consists of mostly Indo-Aryans. Pakistanis are 70% Caucasoid, 20% Australoid- ......., and 10% Mongoloid in their overall genetic composition. Indians are 50% Australoid-....... by race, 35% Caucasoid, and 15% Mongoloid in their overall genetic composition.

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DRESS:

Pakistanis overwhelmingly wear Shalwar-Qameez. Shalwar is a persian word wrongly pronounced by Indians as “Salwar”. Qameez is an Arabic word. In India, Saris are much more popular even though the origin of the Sari is dated to Pakistan’s Indus civilization. Sari are also not preferred due to the exposed midriff. Pakistani men wear the Peshawari Chappal, sometimes even with jeans. These durable shoes can last for ten years. Lungees are worn in India even by government officials, In Pakistan, Lungis are not worn much.

CUISINE:


Pakistani Food Sample ...

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Pakistani cuisine relies heavily on meat,

especially red meat. Indian food relies more on vegetable dishes as the cow is revered. Indians use more mustard seeds, curry leaves, and hinge. Hinge is disliked in Pakistan for its strong smell. Pakistan’s specializations are haleem, balti, beef nihari, chappli kabab, other shared dishes like biriyani and pullao are also originally from Central Asia.
While there are similarities to North Indian cuisine due to central asia’s influence/domination of India, South Indian cusine is completely different. Dishes such as : kevar kalli, idli, sambar, vadai, rasam, dosa, thayir sadam (yogurt rice), thayir vadai (yogurt-soaked fritters), kootu (vegetables in wet style), poriyal/kari (vegetables in dry style), murukku,uthappam, idiappam, appalam is unknown to Pakistanis.


Indian Food Sample ...







Some Pictures of Indians and Pakistanis to compare ... :


UNIVERSITY GRADUATES (India)



Pakistani Graduates..




Indian CERN SCIENTIST



Pakistani CERN SCIENTIST (I'd marry a beautiful super-smart scientist like her (; ! )



Indian Nurses


Pakistani Nurses:





Indian Students..



Pakistani Students ..





Religion :



Islam is the dominant faith of Pakistan...

Hinduism is the dominant faith of India




So while India is located completely inside the 'South-Asia' ... Pakistan is a country located on the cross-road of many great civilizations/cultures...Pakistan is an intersection of different civilizations..Pakistan is located in Central Asia , Greater Middle-East , and South Asia ...It is a very strategically important country located on a pivotal Geo-strategic location ...

So all in all...overall... Pakistan and Pakistanis are different from India and Indians ....


For complete and more detailed analysis...Go here ...

http://reformistani.wordpress.com/2011/11/27/the-differences-between-pakistanis-and-indians-httpwp mepoemy-l3/

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I find it very interesting... I thought Indians and Pakistanis were the same people..with Pakistanis a bit fairer in complexion offcourse....but seems like Pakistanis are damn proud of their heritage and does NOT want to align themselves with "India" at all (other than obvious relation of Punjabis or some Sindhi Hindus/Muslims on both side of border...)...

Any thoughts?

 

[Grimald]

I don't think the differences are as pronounced as you suggest, Greenblood07. Both India and Pakistan are inherently diverse themselves, but if you take the whole Indian subcontinent, Pakistan does to necessarily stand out as being different from the rest. I have rather the impression that originally, the divide between North and South was more significant in regard to language and culture. Of course, in the last seven decades a new identity has been instilled in young Pakistanis, reinforced by the violence which occurred during the fight for independence, the many wars between India and Pakistan, and the increasing importance and radicalization of Islam.

The linguistic differences between the national languages Urdu and Hindi are minor and rather willingly introduced by politics. The differences between Urdu and Pashtu within Pakistan, and between Hindi and the Dravidian languages within India are much more important.

Pakistan was founded as the islamic part of India (and then still comprising what is today the independent state of Bangladesh). This required widescale deportations and expulsions of Hindus from the territory of the new Pakistan, as well as of Muslims from what was to become the future India. However, there are still many Muslims left in India. What about Hindus in Pakistan?

A related question which may be more easily answered: What were the differences between Hindus and Muslims in the Punjab in 1947? In that way, we could exclude Southern Indians and Pakistanis of clearly different origins such as the Pasthuns. I have heard that Muslims in India during the preceding centuries were often recruited from lower castes, as Hinduism understandably was not very attractive to them. Could that explain some of the differences?

 

[Lazyman]

The post gets flawed when you take families which migrated from India into account . Apart from that, India is freaking huge, you could make a much bigger post on the differences between say Punjab and Tamil Nadu .

If you take my example, historically Bihar has absolutely no connection with modern day Pakistan, so there is no reason for someone like me to take "pride" (an already ridiculous concept) in something like the Indus valley civilization . Culturally though, since I spent my whole life in Karachi, I am a Karachiite, yes, a single city is different culturally from the rest of the country, right down to the way we speak to each other .

 

[BojepJoe]

lost at CERN scientist comparison..

 

[Shaheen]

This is a very interesting question. Pakistan is on the crossroads between South Asia, the Middle East and Central Asia. There is a huge amount of diversity present, from the mongolian Hazaras, to the Africans brought by the Omanis and British, to the fair "european" looking people of Gilgit Baltistan. As a Pakistani i would not disagree too much with the op. Yes North Indians are the ones we share the most with but saying an Indian and a Pakistani are the same is like saying an Iranian and an Arab is the same. An outsider will not see and most probably will not care what the differences between the two people are but the two groups themselves will be able to identify.

However posting pictures representing people is always a tricky business. A person can always find dark Pakistanis and fair Indians on google images. The general trend nevertheless is true. Pakistanis especially Pakhtuns and other northern people are generally speaking fairer than Indians. Blue/green eyes and brown and sometimes though rarely even blonde hair exist in West Pakistan and Afghanistan. Something pretty much non existent in Indians. I think as time goes on the differences will increase between the two.

 

[Shaheen]

The linguistic differences between the national languages Urdu and Hindi are minor and rather willingly introduced by politics. The differences between Urdu and Pashtu within Pakistan, and between Hindi and the Dravidian languages within India are much more important.

A related question which may be more easily answered: What were the differences between Hindus and Muslims in the Punjab in 1947? In that way, we could exclude Southern Indians and Pakistanis of clearly different origins such as the Pasthuns. I have heard that Muslims in India during the preceding centuries were often recruited from lower castes, as Hinduism understandably was not very attractive to them. Could that explain some of the differences?

Punjabis are the same whether Hindu, Muslim or Sikh. However they make a small 3 % of India and something around 40% in Pakistan. As for Muslims being recruited from lower castes i can say that in Pakistan that is not true. Those of my tribe the Kamboj who were Hindu belonged to the warrior caste "kshatriyas". A large section of Pakistani Punjabis are made up of Jatts and Rajputs. Two upper caste tribes. I do not know how the situation is in North India.

I think the very fact that the Indus region became majority Muslim shows how it did have a seperate identity from that of the Gangetic plains. Before Islam a large section of the population of this region was Buddhist. I do not have any statistics but one thing that is certain is that Hinduism did not have a strong hold on the Indus plains as it did in the plains of the Ganges.

Regarding Urdu, it is not the mother tounge of any Pakistani ethnic group other than the Urdu speaking migrants who came from India in the 40s and form around 7% of the population. It was adopted as the national language due to its historic prestige as the language of the Mughals and because no ethnic group could then say that their language had not been picked as the national language.

 

[antocya]

I think the main difference is that Pakistan was created to be a Muslim state apart from India, even though there are lots of Muslims in India Pakistan is specifically Muslim even if the role Islam is supposed to play in Pakistan is debatable.

I found the pictures of people to be pretty strange, I don't know how representative any of them are of what is typical in India or Pakistan and how anyone would know which country they're from unless someone told them, apart from the nurses maybe.

 

[anmol]

Punjabis are the same whether Hindu, Muslim or Sikh. However they make a small 3 % of India and something around 40% in Pakistan. As for Muslims being recruited from lower castes i can say that in Pakistan that is not true. Those of my tribe the Kamboj who were Hindu belonged to the warrior caste "kshatriyas". A large section of Pakistani Punjabis are made up of Jatts and Rajputs. Two upper caste tribes. I do not know how the situation is in North India.

I think the very fact that the Indus region became majority Muslim shows how it did have a seperate identity from that of the Gangetic plains. Before Islam a large section of the population of this region was Buddhist. I do not have any statistics but one thing that is certain is that Hinduism did not have a strong hold on the Indus plains as it did in the plains of the Ganges.

Regarding Urdu, it is not the mother tounge of any Pakistani ethnic group other than the Urdu speaking migrants who came from India in the 40s and form around 7% of the population. It was adopted as the national language due to its historic prestige as the language of the Mughals and because no ethnic group could then say that their language had not been picked as the national language.

regarding the quote above if aryan invasion theory is to be believed indus valley civilization migrated to south india during aryan invasion or if its counter is to be believed indus valley civilization migrated to indus -gangetic plane due to drying up of the sarswati river and desertification of rajisthan and sindh.

 

[Naomasa298]

The pictures used for comparison are, shall we say, "selective" at best.

For example, let's say I post...

Indian Woman:

Pakistani Woman:

What exactly do these two pictures prove?

 

[Greenblood07]

The pictures used for comparison are, shall we say, "selective" at best.

For example, let's say I post...

Indian Woman:

Pakistani Woman:

What exactly do these two pictures prove?

What is bollywood? Isn't this India's film industry? I guess that first picture you posted is an actress...

Actresses , film stars aren't reflective of the whole general population of any country.... Actresses/Film stars etc of EVERY country would be the prettiest/most handsome people around...

Anyways , I guess , the pictures show the 'general' trend of majority of Pakistanis vs majority of Indians because these pictures are of average everyday Indian and Pakistanis...not film star vs film star etc ...

On a general scale .... Average Pakistanis are taller , more aggressive , and more fairer in complexion than average Indians...Indians are generally shorter , darker in complexion , and calm people ..Probably diet or climate has something to do with it? Pakistanis eat alot of meat while Indians do not ? I don't know.... but height and complexion part is pretty understandable as majority of Pakistanis are Caucasoid while majority of Indians are Australoid-....... by race .... See Genetics.

Plus : Last picture is scary..what has happen to that poor woman?

I don't think the differences are as pronounced as you suggest, Greenblood07.

Grimald , its not my list... I took it all from the source I mentioned in my post..I thought it would be interesting hence I posted it here ...

Today's Pakistan is Muslim-Majority Indus Valley Civilization , unlike Ancient Pakistan which was Buddhist Majority before the arrival of Islam...

 

[Naomasa298]

What is bollywood? Isn't this India's film industry? I guess that first picture you posted is an actress...

Actresses , film stars aren't reflective of the whole general population of any country.... Actresses/Film stars etc of EVERY country would be the prettiest/most handsome people around...

Are your pictures of CERN scientists reflective of the general population? You criticise my pictures for being selective, but you don't see how that applies to yours?

Anyways , I guess , the pictures show the 'general' trend of majority of Pakistanis vs majority of Indians because these pictures are of average everyday Indian and Pakistanis...not film star vs film star etc ...

Do they? A selection of eight pictures is representative of some 1.4 billion people?

 

[Greenblood07]

Are your pictures of CERN scientists reflective of the general population? You criticise my pictures for being selective, but you don't see how that applies to yours?

Do they? A selection of eight pictures is representative of some 1.4 billion people?

Its 1.2 billion ...1.4 is too many for a single country ...

Coming to the topic in hand...

I guess you did not read my post completely...

Those pictures are of "every-day" Indians and Pakistanis ...like Nurses vs Nurses etc... Those pictures in themself doesn't show anything but you have to take them into account in the context of whole thread...

On a general scale .... Average Pakistanis are taller , more aggressive , and more fairer in complexion than average Indians...Indians , on the other hand, are generally shorter , darker in complexion , and calm people ..Probably diet or climate has something to do with it? Pakistanis eat alot of meat while Indians do not ? I don't know.... but the height and complexion part is pretty understandable as majority of Pakistanis are Caucasoid by race while majority of Indians are Australoid-....... by race .... See Genetics section of my OP.

Plus .. this is not me posting pictures or thread..I have mentioned the source in the OP...Go to that source and see things in complete detail and source...very long essay... I just posted it here because I found it interesting... As I said , that *I* used to think Indians and Pakistanis as same people with Pakistanis having fairer complexion...but this is not the case so it was surprising for *me* and hence I shared it here...

Hope everything is clear now...


Basically , Pakistan is a Muslim-Majority Indus Valley Civilization and it was never really a part of India... Muslim Invaders used Pakistan as a "base" to launch invasions inside main Indian body (India) ... Now , today's Pakistan is a very complicated and complex country located on a very strategic location , at the cross-roads of different great civilizations... All these facts give Pakistan a completely new identity..an identity that is very independent of "India" , unlike as I previously thought...

 

[Shaheen]

Greenblood, i would cut down on pointless presumptions like Indians are less agressive, more calm people. I have read statistics on Pakistanis being taller yes but i have never heard of Pakistanis being more aggressive. How does one calculate aggressiveness? Personally i find picture comparing not interesting. In our part of the world skin colour is far too often associated with how good looking you are or what kind of social class you are from. That is why i avoid topics like that and would focus more on the historical aspect. Like how long has Pakistan been ruled from a centralized power based in India? What kind of cultural similarities and differences exist? etc.

@ Anmol: The Aryan Invasion theory is bullocks imo. Have yet to see any convincing evidence to support it.

 

[okamido]

From all what I used to know about India and Pakistan , I thought that Pakistanis and Indians are same people that separated into two countries....Well it turns out ...it is not the case,apparently ! I'm starting this thread to make this issue a bit more clearer by initiating a rational debate on it...

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So Indians and Pakistanis are NOT the same people... Pakistanis are different than Indians in genetics, overall genetic composition, religion, culture, rituals, linguistics, dress, diet, ethnicity, governance, pre-history, civilization, race, complexion, geography, philosophy, script, cuisine, music, entertainment, soico-politics and economies.

People:

There are cases where a Punjabi from Pakistan would obviously look like their counterpart in India partitioned Punjab , but Punjabis comprise of only 2% of India. Pakistani people from KPK Province and Balochistan Province have almost nothing to do with rest of India.

CIVILIZATION:​

South Asia is made up of many regions, cultures, languages, nations and civilizations. Since rivers can sustain clusters of large populations, early man formed the first civilizations around rivers. Examples include: Huang He (Yangtze River), Mesapotamia (Euphrates/Tigris) , Egypt (River Nile) and Pakistani’s very own Indus Valley Civilization (Indus River) ... Indus River runs right through the center of Pakistan and is considered as the "life-line" of the country. The name "Indians" come from Indus River , which actually flows through Pakistan..So today's Pakistanis are actually 'Indians--The people of Indus' ... A Gujrati or Bengali living in India has nothing to do with Indus to begin with...​

Modern Pakistanis take immense pride in the fact they are descendants of the civilization that formed around the River Indus. The Indus river flows entirely through modern-day Pakistan, Kashmir and Tibet. The Indus Valley Civilization was located primarily (95%) in modern day Pakistan. The Indus binds together the 6 regions of Pakistan: Baluchistan, Sindh, Punjab, Kashmir, Khyber-P, Gilgit-Baltistan.​

On the other hand, the Gangetic civilization of India is formed around the Ganges river which flows away from the Indus and terminates in the Bengal delta. It is entirely in Peninsular India and Bengal. Ancient geographers recognised the boundary of Hind to be EAST OF THE INDUS RIVER SYSTEM. The Indus River System has nothing to do with Hind; it only defines Hind as a land on the other side of the Indus System. In Latin, Hind would be defined as a trans-Indus land. Note the divergent paths below of the two rivers:


Indus – A river in Pakistan



Gangetic Civilization in Modern “India”





Moreover , for the over-whelming part of the history , modern-day Pakistan was never a part of "India" anyways... India was never a 'united' nation as it was under British rule.. Regions now compiling Pakistan were almost always "independent" of central body of 'Indian-tribes' ....

RACE:​

While the racial features of each ethnic group are not uniform, Pashtuns are the most Caucasoid, followed by Kashmiris, Baluchis, north Punjabis, and then Sindhis, Seraikis, Urdu-speakers (Not of Afghan, Turkic, Persian, Arab origin). The Australoid-....... and Mongoloid racial elements are quite infused within the dominant Caucasoid genes among Pakistanis, however there are some that have retained their distinct racial characteristics. The Australoid-Dravidian racial element dominates among the lower caste Indians, South Indians, Eastern and Central Indians. The Caucasoid racial element dominates in Northwest Indians and higher caste Indians. The Mongoloid racial element dominates in Northeast Indians and border regions with China.​

India hosts the world’s largest population of Proto-Australoids. The Austrics of India represent a race of medium height, dark complexion with long heads and rather flat noses. Miscegenation with the earlier Negroids may be the reason for the dark or black pigmentation of the skin and flat noses. The Austrics laid the foundation of Indian civilization. They cultivated rice and vegetables and made sugar from sugarcane. Now these people are found primarily in three countries: India, Papua New Guinea and Australia. Their languages have survived only in the Central and Eastern India.​

ETHNICITY:

A significant portion of Pakistani population is Afghan/Pashtun and Irani/Baluchistanis. The Pashtun are an integral part of Pakistan’s establishment. It can be said there are two Pashtun countries in the world, Afghanistan and Pakistan. This ethnic group has contributed many of Pakistan’s presidents & prime ministers (Ayub Khan, Yahya Khan, Zafarullah Khan, Liaqat Ali Khan, Feroz Khan). There are more Pashtuns in Pakistan than Afghanistan and more in Karachi than Kabul. There are 15 Million Pushtun Speakers in Afghanistan and 25 Million in Pakistan! India does not have Pushtun speakers. People of Iranian ancestry have taken up leadership positions include Benazir Bhutto and the ex prime minister Gilani who visited his ancestral homes on a trip to Iran. Arabs settled along the Indus and Omanis settled in the enclave of Gwadar,Balochistan. Still other Pakistanis are descendants of Mongols, Mughals and Turks in addition to Persians, Sakas, Parthians, Hephthalites and Greeks.​

Pakistani Ethnicities; Another pull towards the Oxus and Central Asia :​

Pakistan’s ethnicity with an overlap with India due to Punjab’s partition :

GENETICS : ​

The Pakistani population consists of mostly Indo-Aryans. Pakistanis are 70% Caucasoid, 20% Australoid- ......., and 10% Mongoloid in their overall genetic composition. Indians are 50% Australoid-....... by race, 35% Caucasoid, and 15% Mongoloid in their overall genetic composition.​

DRESS:

Pakistanis overwhelmingly wear Shalwar-Qameez. Shalwar is a persian word wrongly pronounced by Indians as “Salwar”. Qameez is an Arabic word. In India, Saris are much more popular even though the origin of the Sari is dated to Pakistan’s Indus civilization. Sari are also not preferred due to the exposed midriff. Pakistani men wear the Peshawari Chappal, sometimes even with jeans. These durable shoes can last for ten years. Lungees are worn in India even by government officials, In Pakistan, Lungis are not worn much.

CUISINE:


Pakistani Food Sample ...

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Pakistani cuisine relies heavily on meat,

especially red meat. Indian food relies more on vegetable dishes as the cow is revered. Indians use more mustard seeds, curry leaves, and hinge. Hinge is disliked in Pakistan for its strong smell. Pakistan’s specializations are haleem, balti, beef nihari, chappli kabab, other shared dishes like biriyani and pullao are also originally from Central Asia.
While there are similarities to North Indian cuisine due to central asia’s influence/domination of India, South Indian cusine is completely different. Dishes such as : kevar kalli, idli, sambar, vadai, rasam, dosa, thayir sadam (yogurt rice), thayir vadai (yogurt-soaked fritters), kootu (vegetables in wet style), poriyal/kari (vegetables in dry style), murukku,uthappam, idiappam, appalam is unknown to Pakistanis.


Indian Food Sample ...







Some Pictures of Indians and Pakistanis to compare ... :


UNIVERSITY GRADUATES (India)



Pakistani Graduates..




Indian CERN SCIENTIST



Pakistani CERN SCIENTIST (I'd marry a beautiful super-smart scientist like her (; ! )



Indian Nurses


Pakistani Nurses:





Indian Students..



Pakistani Students ..





Religion :



Islam is the dominant faith of Pakistan...

Hinduism is the dominant faith of India




So while India is located completely inside the 'South-Asia' ... Pakistan is a country located on the cross-road of many great civilizations/cultures...Pakistan is an intersection of different civilizations..Pakistan is located in Central Asia , Greater Middle-East , and South Asia ...It is a very strategically important country located on a pivotal Geo-strategic location ...

So all in all...overall... Pakistan and Pakistanis are different from India and Indians ....


For complete and more detailed analysis...Go here ...

http://reformistani.wordpress.com/2011/11/27/the-differences-between-pakistanis-and-indians-httpwp mepoemy-l3/

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I find it very interesting... I thought Indians and Pakistanis were the same people..with Pakistanis a bit fairer in complexion offcourse....but seems like Pakistanis are damn proud of their heritage and does NOT want to align themselves with "India" at all (other than obvious relation of Punjabis or some Sindhi Hindus/Muslims on both side of border...)...

Any thoughts?

How much of this did you actuall write, and how much is clipped from the website you linked?

 

[Greenblood07]

How much of this did you actuall write, and how much is clipped from the website you linked?

Almost all the information/pictures/maps are from the website... I just "summarize" some sections like 'Religion' .. In actual site..religion is discussed in detail while I just summarized it as "Islam---Pakistan , Hinduism---India" etc ....

Also , in actual paper...there are ALOT more sources , pictures , detailed maps...also there are alot more sections like Topography , Geography , Philosophy , economics in both countries , governing styles etc etc ...


Plus : First and last paragraphs are mine though..

 

[Greenblood07]

Greenblood, i would cut down on pointless presumptions like Indians are less agressive, more calm people. I have read statistics on Pakistanis being taller yes but i have never heard of Pakistanis being more aggressive. How does one calculate aggressiveness?

Well , many Pakistani ethnicities like "Pashtuns" are the people that historically invaded and defeated modern day Indians again and again..Pashtun are tribal people that are aggressive in nature..Not saying that every Pashtun as aggressive or will start a fight without any reason...but see it as "Warrior class" and "non-Warrior class" ... Indians have their own share of warriors..Like Sikhs/Maharathans/Rajputs etc were historically more "aggressive" people than say tamils or Southern India... Being aggressive in nature is nothing bad...nor is being calm in nature...each have its own consequences...

Personally i find picture comparing not interesting. In our part of the world skin colour is far too often associated with how good looking you are or what kind of social class you are from. That is why i avoid topics like that and would focus more on the historical aspect. Like how long has Pakistan been ruled from a centralized power based in India? What kind of cultural similarities and differences exist? etc.

Sorry. I didn't know that... I'm not saying that Indians are beautiful than Pakistanis and vice versa... Out of all pictures , I only loved that pretty Pakistani CERN scientist though

and yes , Modern day Pakistan was never really a part of India...except Punjab province of Pakistan....

 

[Lucius]

It's all very wonderful of course to study up on distinctiveness. But whether we compare Hondurans to Laplanders or Japanese to Ugandans, we are all more alike than we are different from each other.

Perhaps it's so well known that it "goes without saying." Maybe it does. But maybe it doesn't.

 

[Jinit]

So what actual history are we discussing here?

 

[Master Chief]

Well , many Pakistani ethnicities like "Pashtuns" are the people that historically invaded and defeated modern day Indians again and again..Pashtun are tribal people that are aggressive in nature..Not saying that every Pashtun as aggressive or will start a fight without any reason...but see it as "Warrior class" and "non-Warrior class" ... Indians have their own share of warriors..Like Sikhs/Maharathans/Rajputs etc were historically more "aggressive" people than say tamils or Southern India... Being aggressive in nature is nothing bad...nor is being calm in nature...each have its own consequences...
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and yes , Modern day Pakistan was never really a part of India...except Punjab province of Pakistan....

When did Pashtuns invaded and defeated modern day India? Are you referring to the 1948 war, 1965 war, 1971 war or the Kargil war? Please keep in mind that modern day India did not exist before 15 August 1947.

The thing is that India is an extremely diverse state. In India every province speaks a different language, and have different culture. (kinda like how Sindhis are different than Pashtuns). It can be argued that every province in India is really not part of India because they are so different from each other.

Also on an interesting note, Bangladesh used to be part of Pakistan.

 

[Rosi]

The OP is baiting. The website he has cited as his source is typical pro-Pakistan propaganda, something that is not new to Indians. Their favourite argument is that of "racial superiority", a la Nazis, and the fact that they kicked Hindu ... for so long and hence are superior in every way.

It's historically inaccurate and comes from an intellectually dishonest place. YouTube is a better place for it. I hope none of the Indians here take the bait but if they do it would be best to put a lock on this thread asap cos I know how these things escalate. But that's just my opinion.