apocalypto

Brisieis · Nov 29, 2011

dimmit said:
Never seen it but I will definitely have to put it on the list.

I remember reading a while back about Gibson's plans for a "historical" movie set in the times of the Viking raids on the British Isles. Has anyone read anything about that recently?

Perhaps it was put on the back burner given Mel's recent "troubles."

Apparently he is directing a film with Warner Bros about Judah Macabee:

Jewish group demands Mel Gibson be fired from Judah Maccabee movie | Mail Online

kbear · Nov 29, 2011

Brisieis said:
Apparently he is directing a film with Warner Bros about Judah Macabee:

Jewish group demands Mel Gibson be fired from Judah Maccabee movie | Mail Online

and what rights do this group have to demand that warner brothers fire him?? do they work for warner brothers?

Zeno · Nov 29, 2011

kbear said:
and what rights do this group have to demand that warner brothers fire him?? do they work for warner brothers?

He made some anti-Semitic comments in the past. They perceive it like you would Ahmedinejad making a film about George Washington, they don't trust he'll do history justice.

To Gibson its just publicity naturally.

kbear · Nov 29, 2011

Zeno said:
He made some anti-Semitic comments in the past. They perceive it like you would Ahmedinejad making a film about George Washington, they don't trust he'll do history justice.

To Gibson its just publicity naturally.

i know he made those comments when he was dog drunk. but still they don't have the right to demand WB fire him...

Vintersorg · Nov 29, 2011

I'm disappointed he's going to make that Judah Maccabee movie.
I mean, he was originally going to make a movie about Vikings, spoken in ancient norse.
The Judah M. story might be interesting, but it can't be cooler than vikings.
Even if his plan to cast Leonardo Di Caprio as a Viking was somewhat weird (Di Caprio is a great actor, but him playing a Viking warrior? That's like casting Dustin Hoffman as conan the Barbarian...)

Back on topic, I think Apocalypto was great.

Sankari · Nov 29, 2011

I thought Apocalypto was a rather silly, pointless movie. It consisted almost entirely of the longest and arguably least interesting chase scene in the world, involving an unstoppable guy who at some point appeared to forget he'd been seriously wounded and shrugged off what should have been a number of debilitating injuries.

It should have been called 'Indestructo.'

kbear said:
i know he made those comments when he was dog drunk. but still they don't have the right to demand WB fire him...

Yes they do. They can do all the demanding they like. That's their right under the Constitution.

Brisieis · Nov 30, 2011

kbear said:
and what rights do this group have to demand that warner brothers fire him?? do they work for warner brothers?

Not sure.

Zeno said:
He made some anti-Semitic comments in the past. They perceive it like you would Ahmedinejad making a film about George Washington, they don't trust he'll do history justice.

To Gibson its just publicity naturally.

In all fairness, he was extremely drunk and not in a great place at the time, people say and do some really bad things when they have a break down.

Maybe he wants to make up for it by doing the film justice?

Sankari said:
involving an unstoppable guy who at some point appeared to forget he'd been seriously wounded and shrugged off what should have been a number of debilitating injuries.

You mean like almost every other movie on earth...? I don't see that as a reason.

Anadhras · Nov 30, 2011

Apocalypto was a good action movie, the scenery, acting, and directing are well done.

As far as historical accuracy is concerned, I've read a lot of experts on Mesoamerican history rolled their eyes at the movie. Some of the problems were the fact that they blindly tossed in elements that either belonged to the Aztecs or were from various different periods of Mayan history.

Also, as far as I know, Mayan cities had been abandoned for centuries by the time the first Spaniards arrived, and the Mayans never practiced the kind of large scale, industrial human sacrifice that you saw in the movie -- those were the Aztecs. I'm not certain if I remember this right, but the particular god they were sacrificing to didn't even require human sacrifices.

I also seem to remember that the actors were speaking the wrong language, or maybe it was just a modern form of it that wasn't spoken at that time.

kbear · Nov 30, 2011

Sankari said:
I thought Apocalypto was a rather silly, pointless movie. It consisted almost entirely of the longest and arguably least interesting chase scene in the world, involving an unstoppable guy who at some point appeared to forget he'd been seriously wounded and shrugged off what should have been a number of debilitating injuries.

It should have been called 'Indestructo.'

Yes they do. They can do all the demanding they like. That's their right under the Constitution.

wow, i couldn't disagree more--you are the only person in this thread who didn't like it. the chase scene was a bit far fetched i agree but i was exciting! that's why i called jaguar paw the mayan energizer bunny in my OP... didn't rambo go thru something similar--and arnold in the terminator movies? we can't have the main star drop dead after only 1 pesky arrow!

kbear · Nov 30, 2011

Brisieis said:
Not sure.

In all fairness, he was extremely drunk and not in a great place at the time, people say and do some really bad things when they have a break down.

Maybe he wants to make up for it by doing the film justice?

You mean like almost every other movie on earth...? I don't see that as a reason.

exactly--who hasn't said some really stupid or terrible things when really drunk?? i believe he has apologized for those comments. and i imagine he had a hell of a hangover the next day!

Brisieis · Nov 30, 2011

kbear said:
exactly--who hasn't said some really stupid or terrible things when really drunk?? i believe he has apologized for those comments. and i imagine he had a hell of a hangover the next day!

When people suffer break downs it is very unpleasant, and afterwards the person feels terrible and ashamed, I don't see the point in going on and on about it because IMO he was clearly in a distressed mind set at that point in his life.

If he made the comments sober and stood by them as a belief I would think a lot less of him, but he didn't.

Everyone makes mistakes.

kbear · Nov 30, 2011

exactly, i've been a detox nurse and i've heard some really crazy stuff--that the person doesn't even remember saying once they sober up...people do bizarre things in a black-out..

Brisieis · Nov 30, 2011

kbear said:
exactly, i've been a detox nurse and i've heard some really crazy stuff--that the person doesn't even remember saying once they sober up...people do bizarre things in a black-out..

I agree, I have had experience around people who had break downs and it is horrible, the worst thing is that the person is really not themselves, so I think it must be understood the difference between someone who is in a bad place and gets drunk and someone who just wants to be an ......

BlackViper · Nov 30, 2011

kbear said:
does anyone have suggestions for other movies similar to this one? about the mayans? or incas, aztecs...

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