Best Choice for Power Couple~Julius Caesar or Mark Anthony & Cleopatra or???

MinoanGoddess · May 7, 2012

I often wondered how the Roman Empire would have turned out if dictator Julius Caesar was not assassinated and had reigned with Queen Cleopatra over the Roman Empire and Egypt.
Would Caesar & Cleopatra have succeeded whereas Mark Anthony & Cleopatra clearly failed.
What are your thoughts? Which one makes better power couple?

okamido · May 7, 2012

Julius and Cleo...definately.

Mosquito · May 7, 2012

Unlike Mark Anthony Caesar didnt treat Cleopatra seriously.

unclefred · May 7, 2012

Caesar was just enjoying an easy lay. Antony risked all, which indicates love. In any case, I don't think he cared about being a Roman power couple. Cleo was in life saving mode.

MinoanGoddess · May 8, 2012

I was hoping for more responses on choice of power couple

Frossard · May 8, 2012

I voted for Augustus. I like Augustus over Julius over what he did for the Romans. I do know that Julius didn't get to do much before he was assassinated by the senators, but I feel though if he had many years to rule, Augustus would be better.

okamido · May 8, 2012

MinoanGoddess said:
I was hoping for more responses on choice of power couple

Well, in contrast to Antony and Cleopatra, a Caesar-Cleo tandem would have been far more politically successful. With Cleopatra on the throne of Egypt, raising Caesar's son and protected by Caesar's authoritas, Egypt would have been the personal bank that funded Caesar's Legions as well as the breadbasket that allowed Caesar to maintain his power with the plebs, via the grain dole. With the legislation that was set to be introduced that would allow Caesar to marry anyone he wanted, and thus acknowledge his son as a true Roman heir, I don't see how any other of the three choices could even hope to equal these two in power.

Cornelius · May 8, 2012

Power couple? Considering that Rome in the 1st century BC would have been able to smash Egypt like a beetle without any effort whatsoever, it comes down to who was the most able Roman - undoubtedly Caesar, naturally.

BrowniesRule · May 8, 2012

MinoanGoddess said:
I often wondered how the Roman Empire would have turned out if

A change in the royal couple would clearly have negated centuries of development on the subsequent timeline, that's for sure. Cleopatra and Mark Anthony influenced the destiny of the ''western eurasian world'' DRAMATICALLY.

purpleguy89 · May 8, 2012

Frossard said:
I voted for Augustus. I like Augustus over Julius over what he did for the Romans. I do know that Julius didn't get to do much before he was assassinated by the senators, but I feel though if he had many years to rule, Augustus would be better.

I pretty much agree. I take Augustus over Julius any day, simply because Augustus was excellent at making balanced decisions.

okamido · May 8, 2012

But Augustus and Cleopatra would have never worked out. Ptolemy XV Philopator Philometor Caesar, anyone?

purpleguy89 · May 8, 2012

okamido said:
But Augustus and Cleopatra would have never worked out. Ptolemy XV Philopator Philometor Caesar, anyone?

You're probably right.

Cornelius · May 9, 2012

The idea of Octavian and Cleopatra as a couple is so utterly alien to me I can't even imagine it hypothetically. All but a womanizer, he was a calculating and somewhat merciless man who never did anything without a very good reason. Him falling for the charms of Cleopatra - impossible. Nor would his deep desire to kill her precious son help their relationship. Besides, judging from her choice of men, I don't think she would've been very interested in him. Caesar and Antony were famous warriors and notorious womanizers, whereas Octavian was, well, not.

okamido · May 9, 2012

Cornelius said:
Besides, judging from her choice of men, I don't think she would've been very interested in him. Caesar and Antony were famous warriors and notorious womanizers, whereas Octavian was, well, not.

I'm not so sure. If Octaviun had shown the slightest interest in pursuing a relationship with her, I believe that political expediency would have taken precedence over any type of physical prerequisites.

Cornelius · May 9, 2012

okamido said:
I'm not so sure. If Octaviun had shown the slightest interest in pursuing a relationship with her, I believe that political expediency would have taken precedence over any type of physical prerequisites.

Agreed. Then again, physical attraction does tend to make a relationship easier...

Anyway, like I said, the idea of Octavian falling for Cleopatra is utterly alien to me.

okamido · May 9, 2012

Cornelius said:
Agreed. Then again, physical attraction does tend to make a relationship easier...

Money talks and poo-poo walks.

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