Hitler was a British Agent?

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Had anyone read this book? What do you think?
Hitler was a British Agent covers Hitler's psychological training in Britain during his missing year (1912) and how this was activated throughout WWII to steer him as a puppet of British intelligence, carrying out their plan to destroy the European powers, particularly France, Germany and Russia. ... Google Books
 

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This is so silly. Why would a man controlling the most powerful nation of the time be an agent of a lesser power? It makes no sense that someone who wields more power be an agent of another agency with lesser power. If the aim of the British empire was to weaken European powers, then it failed miserably because the British empire itself literally collapsed after WW2 and another far more powerful empire in the form of the USSR arose.
 
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A funny claim if you look at the facts. There are the statements of a British spy (Eddie Chapman), whom the British MI5 allegedly stopped from a suicide attack on Hitler in 1944, as well as of Hitler's sister-in-law Bridget Hitler, that he had lived in Liverpool with his half-brother Alois from November 1912 to April 1913, but this is by far not enough to think of such a suspicion.

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I had never heard of the book so decided to have a nose around the interwebs about it. It is actually available for nowt on the internet archive at Hitler was a British agent : unknown : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

From a quick scan it comes across as a rambling stream of consciousness which, while presenting no evidence, contains some pretty outlandish claims such as:

"In each war there are double agents that go right to the top. The more effective they are, the more compromised they are, and the more they are secretly protected afterwards, right through the ages.

Wars are always created through double agents and compromised principles. Wars are always based on profit. Those who profit ignore the deaths. Those who suffer never get past the deaths. In this way it takes an unencumbered generation to illuminate the hoax of war.

To create a war, you first have to invent a fictitious enemy and then go out and kill them – without killing your own double agent. In most instances you have to grow the double agent and the enemy yourself. This has been common practice for over a century.

Stalin began his British training in 1907 and Hitler began his British training in 1912. In both cases these double agents ended up as Heads of State running foreign countries given to them by their trainers. Stalin was from Georgia and was given Russia; Hitler was from Austria and given Germany."

So it wasn't just Hitler who was a British agent.

And

"When the British Freemasons want to create war, the American Skulls prepare to supply them with munitions across the Atlantic and vice versa. When either the Freemasons or the Skulls need a war for profit, they use MI-6 and the CIA to create it."

Plus

"Other countries’ intelligence agencies are also involved. They become involved based on protecting any minority sexual practices of their leaders. The divergent sexual practices of countries’ leaders is the major reason for the miscalculation of war.

Straight after WWII the OSS (Office of Strategic Services) was replaced by the CIA Central Intelligence Agency (1946). The CIA became an ambitious, high-level, ruthless self-sovereign organisaton – effectively a marauding country on the move, a roving conqueror.

The Skulls drew on the CIA for their new members, the most prominent of which was George Herbert Walker Bush (Bush senior) in 1948, followed by George W. Bush in 1968 (the current American President). The Skulls was founded at Yale University in 1832 for the elite children of Wall Street bankers. They were linked to the Illuminati (founded 1 May 1776) and through them had access to the Freemasons and the Mercers. They take in 15 new members each year.

In 2003, just prior to his inauguration as Governor of California, Arnold Schwarzenneger became a 16th member of the Skulls. This doesn’t happen too often.

America, the spiteful, youthful, vengeful ..... did its best to profit from the managed wars of WWI (1914–18) and WWII (1939–45). These were European Civil Wars and Masonic wars – in retaliation for the American Civil War (1861–65) that the British had arranged some fifty years earlier . . . and so history is formed."

And for a final example:

"Most movements created are exported overseas for subversive reasons. Movements and ideologies have become the new war. With a movement or ideology it is possible to destroy an opposing country
without firing a weapon. Political Correctness is a prime example – invented in Russia, it was exported to the West to destroy the family and fun . . . and to stop progress."


If it isn't an elaborate joke I have doubts about the author's sanity.

Speaking of which, he now prefers to be known as King John the Third.

 
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A funny claim if you look at the facts. There are the statements of a British spy (Eddie Chapman), whom the British MI5 allegedly stopped from a suicide attack on Hitler in 1944, as well as of Hitler's sister-in-law Bridget Hitler, that he had lived in Liverpool with his half-brother Alois from November 1912 to April 1913, but this is by far not enough to think of such a suspicion.

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By that stage in the war (1944) the Birtish had decided if the Gemran kept hitler the war would be shortened.
That killing HItler was counter to the interests of the Birtish war effort.

here's a rather currddy source for that.

"Everything was in place, and the plan was submitted in November 1944, but not everyone was happy with it. Lt. Col. Ronald Thornley, deputy head of the SOE’s German Directorate, argued that killing Hitler was a bad idea.

Hitler’s death might give Germans an excuse to blame their failure on his demise, not on their flawed ideology. His murder may also give rise to a myth that Germany might have won if the Führer had lived. It would have been a repeat of post-WWI when Germany blamed its loss on everything but their flawed plan to take France, a mentality that led to WWII. To avoid WWIII, therefore, Hitler had to fall in battle, not from an assassin’s bullet.

More importantly, Hitler was an awful strategist. He demanded absolute and centralized control of his armed forces, believing he knew better than his generals on the field. He, therefore, hurt, not helped, Germany’s war effort. If he was gone, he might be replaced by someone who was an effective strategist."



A better source but more equivical, sayng that

". The SOE began planning Operation Foxley in 1944 despite some opposition from within their ranks. Some people argued it was better to leave Hitler alive as he was making so many blunders. Nevertheless, a plan was put together and SOE began looking for recruits to perform the attempts."

 
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He probably also survived the war to create an army of yeti and elves from his bases in Argentina and the South Pole and once he has enough troops at the ready he will sent them to construct G5 antennas all over the world.
 
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By that stage in the war (1944) the Birtish had decided if the Gemran kept hitler the war would be shortened.
That killing HItler was counter to the interests of the Birtish war effort.

here's a rather currddy source for that.

"Everything was in place, and the plan was submitted in November 1944, but not everyone was happy with it. Lt. Col. Ronald Thornley, deputy head of the SOE’s German Directorate, argued that killing Hitler was a bad idea.

Hitler’s death might give Germans an excuse to blame their failure on his demise, not on their flawed ideology. His murder may also give rise to a myth that Germany might have won if the Führer had lived. It would have been a repeat of post-WWI when Germany blamed its loss on everything but their flawed plan to take France, a mentality that led to WWII. To avoid WWIII, therefore, Hitler had to fall in battle, not from an assassin’s bullet.

More importantly, Hitler was an awful strategist. He demanded absolute and centralized control of his armed forces, believing he knew better than his generals on the field. He, therefore, hurt, not helped, Germany’s war effort. If he was gone, he might be replaced by someone who was an effective strategist."



A better source but more equivical, saying that

". The SOE began planning Operation Foxley in 1944 despite some opposition from within their ranks. Some people argued it was better to leave Hitler alive as he was making so many blunders. Nevertheless, a plan was put together and SOE began looking for recruits to perform the attempts."

A local history site for Davenport station of all places has details about the sniper who was selected for the mission, local man Captain Edmund Harley Bennett: Edmund Bennett: Davenport, Stockport : History

It also gives a different reason why the operation didn't go ahead. After the formulation of the plan in 1944, it appears to have lain dormant until March 1945 when a signal was sent to New York where Bennett was then serving saying he had been selected to carry it out. But by then:

"The bold plan was never carried out; the information in the 120-page was out of date; Hitler left the Berghof for the last time in July 1944 and set up headquarters in a forest in what is now part of western Poland where he survived an assassination attempt by a group of his own officers. Experts differ on whether the Operation Foxley mission might have succeeded, but had it been carried through in 1944, it may well have saved many lives."
 
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The art historian Sir Anthony Blunt, a man at the heart of the British establishment who was surveyor of the Queen's pictures and associated directly with her and her father really was a Soviet spy, so truth really is stranger than fiction on occasion. This connection inspired an excellent play by Alan Bennett:A Question of Attribution - Wikipedia
 
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I guess WW2 crippling the British Empire and ending the UK's tenure as a world power was just all part the UK's plan.

Wait what?

WW2 wasn't so good for Germany and the Nazis. Does that mean they didn't want war?
 

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